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Bubba Site Admin


Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 11291 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: 7.62x39 ammo is corrosive or not? |
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Hi, Id ther a place I can go to find out if a particular round (by headstamp and ??) of 7.62x39 ammo is corrosive or not?
Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
Jeff
Created: 07/05/2006 _________________ Those who adapt control the future
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10 Bears Head Moderator


Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 9756 Location: E-Da-How
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: 7.62x39 ammo is corrosive or not? |
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| Bubba wrote: | Hi, Is ther a place I can go to find out if a particular round (by headstamp and ??) of 7.62x39 ammo is corrosive or not?
Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
Jeff
Created: 07/05/2006 |
My perception of 7.62x39 is that if it is "Foreign" manufacture then it
is probably corrosive.
If it is "Domestic" (USA) it probably will not be.  _________________ When it comes to evil, to tolerate is to accommodate, to accommodate is to appease, and to appease is to concede defeat. |
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ragwd CPT


Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 1679 Location: cleveland, ohio
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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my 2 cents, having a box of wolf 7.62x39 in front of me it says made in russia, steel case, fmj, says non corrosive on front of box and non-corrosive berdan primers on side of box.
also having a box of american eagle, made in usa, 7.62x39, brass case, fmj, non corrosive primers on back of box.
Im sure that 10 Bears have fired many more of these than i have, im sure that he is right, and most russian is corrosive and most american is non-corrosive and my info just muddied the waters, but in my looking at the boxes in which one states both non-corrosive primers and non-corrosive and the other just states non-corrosive primers so now my question is the bullet suppose to be non-corrosive or is the primer suppose to be non-corrosive? _________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. I must master it as i master my life.Without me my rifle is useless, without my rifle i am useless. |
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10 Bears Head Moderator


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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Corrosive applies to powder and primer.
Inexpensive powders and primers are made from chemicals whose
reactive process leaves behind an acidic material that reacts with
ferrous material (steel and iron). Thus creating corrosion, unless
that acidic quality is neutralized or removed.
Bullets (projectiles) are not considered corrosive Unless you are processing Incendiary, tracer or steel jacketed ammo.
The reason I include "steel jacketed" is because it will wear riflings
faster than copper or brass jackets. Therefor it has a type of
corrisiveness all it's own. That is my two cents worth.  _________________ When it comes to evil, to tolerate is to accommodate, to accommodate is to appease, and to appease is to concede defeat.
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ragwd CPT


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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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my 2 cents must be canadian compared to yours 10 Bears  _________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. I must master it as i master my life.Without me my rifle is useless, without my rifle i am useless. |
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KY-AK SSG


Joined: 05 Jun 2006 Posts: 194 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I think most of the corrosive ammo is old not many Country's using it much anymore...... All the Wolf I've seen has been non-corrosive..... And all my Norinco is also non-corrosive... Wolf used corrosive primer years ago I beleive... But not any more....I've heard something about South African being sealed with tar and causing some fouling trouble on FAL's..... |
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10 Bears Head Moderator


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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ragwd wrote: | my 2 cents must be canadian compared to yours 10 Bears  |
Times change, seems their are less corrosive rounds these days.  _________________ When it comes to evil, to tolerate is to accommodate, to accommodate is to appease, and to appease is to concede defeat. |
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ragwd CPT


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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| 10 Bears wrote: | | ragwd wrote: | my 2 cents must be canadian compared to yours 10 Bears  |
Times change, seems their are less corrosive rounds these days.  |
one thing that hasnt changed 10 Bears is that i'm still learning a ton from you and this chat  _________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. I must master it as i master my life.Without me my rifle is useless, without my rifle i am useless. |
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10 Bears Head Moderator


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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| ragwd wrote: | | 10 Bears wrote: | | ragwd wrote: | my 2 cents must be canadian compared to yours 10 Bears  |
Times change, seems their are less corrosive rounds these days.  |
one thing that hasnt changed 10 Bears is that i'm still learning a ton from you and this chat  |
In that case, this Chat has been a success!  _________________ When it comes to evil, to tolerate is to accommodate, to accommodate is to appease, and to appease is to concede defeat. |
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sirfurball SFC


Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 293 Location: Afganistan
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: Russian ammo |
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| Yep,the Russian ammo will corrde a gun fast.Fire a few dozen rounds and dont clean your rifle and you will discover just how fast.If you can afford better(Americian ammo) buy it.Or you could try not firing your rifle and let it sit in the case.No fun there. |
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Bubba Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Russian ammo |
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| sirfurball wrote: | | Yep,the Russian ammo will corrde a gun fast. |
?? what are you referring to? _________________ Those who adapt control the future
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10 Bears Head Moderator


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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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They don't like "Corrosive" Russian Ammo.  _________________ When it comes to evil, to tolerate is to accommodate, to accommodate is to appease, and to appease is to concede defeat. |
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Recon Moderator MG


Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 5875 Location: About to leave Los Angeles County, CA 90249
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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50/50 mixture of ammonia and water will take that superheated salt out of your gun right quick. Just a quick swab at the range after you're done shooting, then a full cleaning job at home. _________________ Smart, Unpredictable and Cunning
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Bubba Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm referring to the statement that Russian ammo is corrosive.. it's not not anymore it's also cheap and fairly accurate _________________ Those who adapt control the future
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Recon Moderator MG


Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 5875 Location: About to leave Los Angeles County, CA 90249
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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The surplus ammo is, not the modern-day stuff. I'd rather pay $7 for 20 rounds of Wolf 7.62x54R than $18 for 20 rounds of Winchester 7.62x54R.
But I can reload the Winchester brass as well. _________________ Smart, Unpredictable and Cunning
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